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Home » Archives » January 2006 » A-thena: A Readers Guide


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01/06/2006: "A-thena: A Readers Guide"

I knew that my now ex-girlfriend has always had a casual relationship to the truth; I did not know to the extent that she also has a rather pliable relationship with reality until her comment on my recent post (see below). I offer below a quick translation for those that don't speak "skank."

But, first a few facts that remain omitted from her diatribe. During the course of our two plus years together, she cheated a total of six times (of which I am aware): an average of once every 4-5 months. The first incident was within months of us getting together. She finally admitted to her whorin' recently, a confession that is legally a reason to end a marriage, let alone morally a reason to end a relationship. I tried to overlook the fact that she had been lying to me the whole time. I tried to put it out of my mind, to be "civil" (which was her demand). I was trying to forgive, trying to make it work.

Athena is a determinist. In her passing acquaintance with Freud and Jung she has developed into an entire Weltanschuung (as if theoretical psychology had not progressed since the 1940's). Accountability was never an issue for her, since nothing was ever her fault. All of her actions were always explained away, due to her psychological problems, the fact that she was drunk, the interactions of the drugs she was taking, her biology . . . never due to an act of will. Here, once again, we see evidence of this lack of accountability, she claims no responsibility for things not working out. She just kept lying and spreading her legs to whomever: but that was never her fault.

I tend to be a Sartrean in these matters; I take responsibility for my actions, to a fault (except in matters economic: that is the only aspect I identify where we are all truly determined). Now her justification is that it is me, not her, which should be seen for what it is--another attempt to absolve herself of responsibility for her actions. That I couldn't marry or have children with someone who so callously and maliciously took my love for granted, that I had a hard time being intimate with the images of half a dozen "errors in judgment" bouncing around my mind, that I had a hard time trusting an admitted liar: this is to her all my fault, not hers.

To get insight into the mentality of the girl, let us examine in more detail her claims.

If I was soo bad then maybe yu [sic] should have left me, rather than volunteering to be a victim (but then, what's new about that?).


I'm not sure how your active deception constitutes my "volunteering to be a victim." I did not choose this: you did. I kept trying to work on it, I still had faith in our relationship. It is your decision that has led to this, not mine. And I am the victim (n. "One who suffers some injury, hardship, or loss, is badly treated or taken advantage of, etc." OED 2d)

I am always amazed at how yu [sic] manage to twist things around so that yu come out a hero, the ever martyred nice guy.

I bet yu wont even keep this comment up.


Ah, but then how will I provide the readers of "Fuck the World" (both of them) with the evidence to support my claims?

The truth of the matter is that I wasn't happy with yu for quite sometime; that my own fear of hurting yu kept me from breaking it off sooner ( I was damned either way); that even when I tried to leave in the past, to yr face, yu would use yr semantic tricks to manipulateme [sic] into staying, out of guilt and nothing more.


Aside from your improper use of semi-colons, there are serious errors in your justification. By "semantic tricks," I think you mean pointing out your poorly-thought and poorly-reasoned foundations for your actions. I am trained to argue, and to spot errors in reasoning. These are not "semantic tricks," but rather the general structure of rationality (of course, modern science seems like "magic" to native populations, unfamiliar to technology; so, too, must the correct use of sound arguments seem like a "trick" to some.)

And its not like I take a lot to keep happy. A dinner out just the two of us once in a while, and a lay once a week.


One must add to this list:

  • cleaning (more on this below)
  • cooking
  • working (two jobs) to support you
  • "cuddling"
  • "tucking in"
  • canceling plans when demanded
  • "being civil" about your cheating
  • helping you get out of debt
  • spending time with your family
  • submitting to your hostility to my friends


We can now add your most recent "reasons" to this ongoing list, and this is still by no means complete.

I used to clean, but after the hundredth time of doing everything and getting no recognition(yu are a total slob) for cleaning up after yu, and yu constantly telling me how lazy I am, I figured that if I'm going to get yelled at for not doing something, I might as well not do it.


This is a clear case of denying the antecedent. But aside from the logical problems with your argument, there are factual inconsistencies, too. How would I have room to complain if you were doing all that you could? From the very beginning I spoiled you; this is my fault. You got used to getting everything you wanted, and then took advantage of my good nature. The initial "deal" was that I cook, you clean. When I was fulfilling my end of the bargain and you were not, of course I got upset. This is especially true when you were not working, and I was working several jobs simultaneously to meet your expectations. I was trying to prepare a life for us; you were looking for a free ride. You can blame your laziness on me, just so long as we don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Everytime I was on the verge of leaving yu, I broke down and gave yu another chance, at yr request. If we haven't worked out after three years then we need to stop wasting our time.


It is your decisions, your unfaithfulness, your lies, your laziness, your lack of accountability that was causing our relationship to not work out. How does this become giving me "another chance?" And then, the final insult was to leave without so much as a word, and to pin all the blame on me. I always conceded to your demands; that's why you never left. Every time you came to me with a legitimate issue, I attempted to alter my behavior. Such cannot be said for you, for your lying, or your cheating. The mystery is not why you were unhappy, but moreover why I kept trying to make the damn thing work. But, clearly I'm the asshole.

As much as I love yu, and I do, the truth is that yr too negative.Yu constantly told me how I was lazy, stupid, annoying, incompetent and selfish. I'm sensitive to that kind of abuse.

I just can't be happy with someone so negative.

When we got together I tried to cheer yu up(that's right, I used to be cheerful), but in the long run yu ended up just dragging me down.


I can't imagine why someone who had endured what I had with you would be so negative--not only about the future I tried so hard to provide for us, but also for the way I have been treated. I thought this time would be different; I thought I had found something permanent. Does "cheering me up" include the lying and cheating, or is that just an added bonus? Does your "love" for me include these things? I thought you were different than my past relationships: but, sure as Mussolini's trains you left a bit after two years. You took me for granted, and that is part of my negativity. And what you omit is that all of my negativity was confirmed. Call it a "self-fulfilling prophesy" or an intuition of things to come, did you handle things any differently than all the rest?

Just as surely as thrown objects fall and heated liquids boil, so too do women leave. You wasted no time in taking whatever I had to give on the way, but don't pretend that it was a "two-way street." It is not that your departure is a function of my negativity, but rather my negativity is a function of your own callous and selfish attitude that you exhibited throughout our relationship, without regard for my feelings or my emotional well-being. The way that you handled the breakup is more evidence to support my claims.

BTW- Lots of people (including ex-boyfriends) disagree with yr opinion of my personality. Since yu also think the rest of the world is fucked up and yr the only one who's not, I'm going to go ahead and disregard yr comments, b/c frankly, I'd rather be happy with the world than miserable with yu.


Quite the contrary, I know I'm fucked up. I have come to terms with my own inadequacies and emotional trauma. I freely admit it. And our "relationship" is just another trash bag on that garbage heap that is my life. But at least I admit my faults. I guess that's too much for such an "honest," "self-sacrificing," "devoted" person such as yourself.

Replies: 8 comments


on Friday, January 6th, Athena said:

I have two words for yu: SOUR GRAPES


on Friday, January 6th, Athena said:

P.S. Women will be eternally leaving yu until yu:
A) Stop dating 18yr olds
B) Find a libido
C) Stop entering into serious relationships with just anyone.

Seriously.

Stop dating girls who are young and willing to submit, because they grow up and grow a spine.
Find a nice 30yr old with no prospects and no self esteem...
Just a suggestion big grin


on Friday, January 6th, Christie said:

A reply to Athena . . . though you don't know me, I have known Tom longer then you have. He was a friend to me at the lowest point in my life, which was right after my husband died. I feel the need to reply to you and express that I feel that you just don't understand the person that is. He is not the average Joe Blow, and should never be expected to be. He's a genius. He's an artist "in and of himself.” All that he has accomplished, from what I understand, he has done on his own. No mommy or daddy to support and encourage him, just his friends. He is a genuine person, and I admire him. I wish I had his brains and ambitions.

Did you ever take the time to really know and understand Tom? Or did you assume it should be all of what you wanted it to be? I would guess you never opened up Steppenwolf before you jumped into a relationship with Tom. If so, you would understand some things a little better. No one is perfect, but Tom knows who he is.

And to put the idea out of your head - I don’t stand by Tom because I am desperate for prospects. I'm 35, have a quite awesome boyfriend, and a mountain of self esteem - more then I probably should have. I’m educated beyond a masters degree at this junction, working on an EdS, and study in the fields of Psychology and Mental Health Counseling. I don’t think Tom is a perfect person. But I do think Tom is an awesome person, and I cherish his friendship.

Some wisdom from an older, more experienced woman - try to remember that people are not perfect. We are all full of flaws that will probably always be a part of us. People cannot become what we want or think they should be. They have to be accepted for who they are.


on Friday, January 6th, Christie said:

Athena, one more thing I forgot about that I wanted to comment on . . . you made reference to Tom needing to get a “Libido” . . . well, one of my areas of special study is Sexual Therapy. It is VERY common that when one is cheated on, they lose their libido for quite some time. Basically it is the image of the unfaithful partner that they love fornicating with someone else, or the fact that they feel there partner is now “unclean.” Just something you might need to own up to before you criticize Tom so harshly. You may very well be the reason for his lack of libido.


on Saturday, January 7th, Athena said:

Unfortunatly Christie, Tom's Libido was a problem long before I ever cheated on him. I'm glad yu think tom is a great guy. I do too, when he is not being completly unfair to me. Please rember that there are two sides to every story, and that it takes two to tango.
As for me not knowing Tom, I would not say that that is impossible. Still, the fact remains that we are not compatible, that we were both unhappy, an that incompatibility is not a sin, it is merely something that happens.


on Saturday, January 7th, Christie said:

Athena, life is not fair, ever. If someone promised you it would be, they lied. Life will kick your feet out from under you when you least expect it. So with that, I am glad to hear that you do think Tom is a great guy. There was a time when I thought Tom was unfair to me . . . but then I realized it was I who expected Tom to be someone different then the person he was.

Yes, I agree . . . it does take two to tango, and I realize there are two sets of hurt feelings here.
I also agree that incompatibility is not a sin. But did you leave with clean hands? Have you paid him any rent money yet, or left him high and dry?


on Saturday, January 7th, Athena said:

hey, don't look at me. I offered him every dollar to my name on monday, he told me to send him a check. The check's in the mail. Tom, in all his ranting an ravings (notice that I kept my comments pretty low key on my own site until Tom went ballistic) is provoking me into doing exactly what he accusses me of. It's a self fufilling prophecy, much like Tom's theory about my cleaning, my unemployment, my leaving him.
A gentleman would have kept his comments low key, and inspired me with his his nobility into doing everything in my power to keep him from being left "high and dry". A not so wise man, at least when it comes to love, would have a long laundry list of why his ex is the devil. He would make her so mad that she wouldn't want to do anything nice for him in the future. Which catagorey does tom fall into? Geez, common sense tells one to at least wait till he got the rent money.
So yeah, back to my point, the check's in the mail, though it took every freakin ounce of kindness to send it to some jerk I gave three years of my life just so he can call me a skank on the internet.
Could I never leave him?? It's not like we were married. When would it have been okay? With a big fat check in my hand?! Wouldn't it be wrong to stay with a guy just because I couldn't pay him some money to hold him over? wouldn't it be wrong to leave him with out the rent money? Wasn't I damned either simply because I wanted out of the relationship. Am I a bad person for wanting out? Are yu starting to see my dilemma? Yu'd be chastising me either way...


on Sunday, January 8th, faith said:

It's been a week: I don't have the fucking right to be hurt?

You left me without the financial and emotional resources necessary to continue on, a week before I have to begin working again.

You left me without notice, without reason and without fulfilling any of your obligations (legally and morally) to me.
The fact that you think that I'm being unreasonable, that I should be "noble," that I do not have the right to be upset: it's just proof of your inability to think of the needs of anyone but yourself.

What is it you always said: that you want to be "recognized" for all the time you spent with me? That's all I ask, but you refuse.

You left me in the worst possible way, in the worst possible time, and without regard for me in any way.

You can "justify" your actions in your own mind, but don't pretend you have any moral authority here.

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